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United States Natal Rectification

In 1787 Ebenezer Sibly, a British astrologer, produced the first known horoscope of the United States. The natal time he used was near 5 p.m. on July 4, 1776 that for Philadelphia is within a minute of the Universal Time (UT) of 22 hours. While there are other times used by various astrologers, the Sibly time is the most commonly accepted time.

Unfortunately there were some errors by the printer in the publication of the Sibly horoscope and several times between 4:50 and 5:14 p.m. LMT are often used. For a full discussion follow these links: Geoffrey Cornelius (includes links to the original artwork) and Lois Rodden. According to Cornelius the correct Sibly time is 4:52:41 p.m. LMT (21:53:17 UT).

Late in 2002 results of a scan using the Natal Finder tool with 18 significant events were presented on this website. The Rectification Levels were calculated for a three hour scan of US natal times. With the 18 events, the peak in the Rectification Level is at 4:49 p.m. LMT (21:50 UT), i.e. only 3 minutes earlier then the time used by Sibly according to Cornelius!. This is the time that has been used to calculate the Meta Life Cycles charts for the US as Examples.

The results have now (January 2003) been significantly extended in three ways. Twelve additional significant events have been added (see below), a full 24 hour Natal Finder scan has been done for July 4, 1776, and five other suggested non July 4, 1776 natal times have been scanned. All of the scans have been normalized to the same scale.

The second highest Rectification Level of all of the scans is at 4:53 p.m. LMT (21:54 UT), i.e. only 1 minute after the time used by Sibly according to Cornelius! That the two scans come so close to the Sibly time is a testament to the quality of his work and the appropriateness of the events.

Adding the twelve events changed the original scan result by four minutes. In general, the Natal Finder peaks will move slightly as good events are added or taken away. Note, peaks can move substantially if a significant fraction of poor events are used.

United States Natal Finder Scans

Following is a discussion of all of the natal times considered and the associated Natal Finder  charts. The times suggested by a number of astrologers over the years are shown on the charts and listed below. The references for these natal times are given on Lois Rodden's website: http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/USA.htm/. In the listing below the titles or names of the charts are placed in quotes, i.e. "title and/or name," to correspond to her listing. There are two additions, the work by Geoffrey Cornelius and this discussion. The times are indicated by the letters A-L and N.

July 4, 1776, Scans for Midnight through 12:00 Noon

A  2:13:32 a.m. LMT “Gemini Rising Chart”

There is a small peak that follows this popular chart by about 8 minutes. What this means is that if an optimum subset of the 30 events are used, this time can appear to work. This time will work for a modest number of other events.

B  9:36 a.m. LMT, “Boehrer/Dobyns Virgo chart”

There is a very small peak that follows this chart by about 5 minutes. What this means is that if a very optimum small subset of the 30 events are used, this time can appear to occasionally work. This time will work for a small number of other events.

C  11:00 a.m. LMT, “Howland chart”

There is no indication that this time is appropriate.

July 4, 1776, Scans for Noon through Midnight

D  2:21 p.m. LMT, “Scorpio Rising chart (Penfield)”

A peak a third as high as the Sibly peak occurs about twelve minutes after this time. This means that this time will often come close to working for a fair number of events and will work very well for some events.

Sibly Charts, ~5:00 p.m. LMT

E  4:52:41 p.m. LMT, Geoffrey Cornelius

E  4:53 p.m. LMT, Roy Whitney (this discussion)

This is the best time with any historical reference or justification. Numerous astrologers have used it quite successfully. The Meta Life Cycles charts using a time four minutes earlier provide an excellent correlation with the changes and major events of the United States. (These charts will be updated to the 4:53 p.m. LMT time at a future date. The values will change about 5-10% on average.)

F   5:10 p.m. LMT, “Sagittarius Rising chart (Sibly)”

G  5:14 p.m. LMT, Dane Rudhyar

The Sibly peak occurs about 19 minutes before these times and there is a peak one tenth as high at these times. This means that these times will often work for a fair number of events and will work very well for some events.

Scans for other Dates and Times

July 6, 1775, 11:00 a.m. LMT, “Boyd Declaration of War”

There is no indication that this time is appropriate.

July 2, 1776, 12:04 p.m. LMT, “Armistead July 2 chart”

There is a very small peak at the indicated time. What this means is that if a very optimum small subset of the 30 events are used, this time can appear to occasionally work and for a few other events the time will also work.

J  November 15, 1777, 12:46 p.m. LMT, “David Solte 1777 chart”

There is a peak about one sixth as high as the Sibly peak approximately 15 minutes later. What this means is that if an optimum subset of the 30 events are used, this time can appear to occasionally work and for a few other events the time will work very well.

March 1, 1781, 3:19 p.m. LMT, “Ratification of the Articles of Confederation (Grimes)”

There is no indication that this time is appropriate.

September 17, 1787, 11:29 a.m. LMT, “Signing of the Constitution”

There is no indication that this time is appropriate.

Note, the earliest of the 30 events for this scan was not included as the event proceeded the date of the signing of the Constitution. The scan was appropriately normalized for having only 29 events.

Five peaks are labeled with an "N"

The five peaks are labeled with an "N" could also reasonably be considered for natal times for the United States. One of the five is even three times higher than the Sibly peak. However, none of the times of these peaks seem to have historically been of interest to astrologers. It is to be expected that scanning for a full 24 hours would produce a number of additional peaks. That the second highest peak in the 24 hour period corresponds to the best historical information is an exciting result for mundane astrology!

Significant Events

The 18 significant events in the initial Natal Finder scan included: the start of US involvement in all major wars, all major acquisitions of territories, all assassinations of Presidents and one special event, the landing on the Moon. To this list twelve additional significant events have been added for the three scans presented above for a total of 30 significant events. With this number of events, adding or removing a modest number of events has limited impact on the results. All of the events are at least a half year apart. The full list of 30 significant events follows with the twelve new additional events indicated with an asterisk.

Start of Major Wars

June 18, 1812 War of 1812
May 8, 1846 Mexican War
April 12, 1861 Civil War
April 22, 1898 Spanish American war
August 1, 1914 World War I*
April 6, 1917 U.S. Entered World War I
September 1, 1939 World War II*
December 7, 1941 Attack on Pearl Harbor
June 27, 1950 Korean War
January 18, 1991 Persian Gulf War

Major Acquisitions Territories**

April 30, 1803 Louisiana Purchase
February 22, 1819 Florida
April 12, 1844 Texas
February 2, 1848 Southwest
March 30, 1867 Alaska

  Assassinations of Presidents

April 15, 1865 President Lincoln
July 2, 1881 President Garfield (died 9/19/1881)
September 14, 1901 President McKinley
November 22, 1963 President Kennedy

Completion of Major Engineering/Scientific/Technology Enterprises

November 4, 1825 Erie Canal*
May 10, 1869 Transcontinental Rail Road*
January 7, 1914 Panama Canal*
July 16, 1945 Trinity - First Atom Bomb*
July 20, 1969 Lunar Landing

Special Events

February 21, 1787 Resolution to Set Up the Constitution*
April 30, 1789 Washington Inaugurated as First President*
October 4, 1957 Sputnik*
July 2, 1964 Segregation Abolished*
February 1, 1992 U.S. Russia Treaty to end Cold War and Start New Relations*
September 11, 2001 Terrorist Strikes on World Trade Center and Pentagon*

* These are the additional twelve events added to the initial 18 events. See the discussion above.

** The acquisition of the Oregon Territory on June 15, 1846 is almost the same date as the start of the Mexican War. The acquisition of Hawaii on July 7, 1898 was close to the start of the Spanish American War. Consequently, these two dates were not used. 

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